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Byron Face Milling Page
« on: January 14, 2017, 08:50:08 PM »
seen a lot of people ask about face milling options for byron, I myself had the same issue a few years back when I was going through my order....I think it's time we join together to help the new byron lovers make the transition from off the rack scottys to legitimate putters...going to post a bunch of face milling pictures...I don't know the exact names but if someone chimes in I will modify the post to have the legitimate name with it
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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2017, 08:51:27 PM »
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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2017, 08:52:57 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2017, 08:54:02 PM »
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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2017, 08:56:21 PM »
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« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2017, 08:57:10 PM »
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« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2017, 08:59:01 PM »
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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2017, 09:01:53 PM »
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not the greatest picture here but I believe this is the standard for the dh89, don't quote me on that however
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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2017, 09:04:46 PM »
shoot, I thought I could modify my postings but apparently that's a limited time thing...hopefully someone can step in and make a list of the names as I only know fly mill, if not a mod might as well delete this posting as I don't know the names to go with the pictures
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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2017, 06:01:24 PM »
Here's a little clearer picture of Tuna #4 (which is the standard milling on the DH89)


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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2017, 08:56:05 PM »
If a thread is put together, what needs to be included is the difference between a hand milled option and a standard milling aka CNC'ed off of the mill.

Some of the pics above are not hand milled options. A CNC'ed deep milled face will look different than a hand deep milled face.

I think the difference is confusing for newcomers.

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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2017, 08:26:25 AM »
Thanks for getting this started, all...will be really useful!
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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2017, 09:32:28 AM »
Some information on my website about different face milling options.

http://303milled.com/blogs/news/43502725-byron-morgan-face-milling-options

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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2017, 01:28:42 PM »
Some information on my website about different face milling options.

http://303milled.com/blogs/news/43502725-byron-morgan-face-milling-options

would you mind making the pictures larger and with captions of what they are?

thank you ;)

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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2017, 09:24:34 PM »
Anyone know what is the milling is on reply 4?

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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2017, 08:04:06 AM »
Anyone know what is the milling is on reply 4?
Deep milled. It was a standard option on some DH89's 612's and some old 006's. It's CNC'ed off the mill that way. This is not a hand milled face so if you ask for a hand deep mill it will have a slightly different look to it.

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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2017, 09:46:28 AM »
This is my best guess on these millings, to try and help out. 

First photo : I believe that is the hand deep mill

2nd: Fine Fly as listed

3rd: I think hand milled tuna #4

4th: CNC deep mill

5th: Original CNC tuna (I think now called Minnow)

6th: Original tight Tuna (=Minnow?) hand-mill

Last pics: Yes, that's the new CNC Tuna #4

Then I have some additions to make.  Here is a good photo which shows and labels the different variations of the "Tuna milling" over the years, which has changed as Byron upgrades machines.  I think that confuses people most.  The Tuna #4 is what comes out of the most modern machine, and I think at this point the other Tuna options would need to be hand millled?  But don't quote me on that, maybe they can dial up an old setting. 

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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2017, 09:47:34 AM »
More additions, the Fine Milled face!  And oft-forgotten option and my personal favorite! 
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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2017, 09:48:34 AM »
Then the old school Twilight Milling so many people loved back from the 007 days.  I'm not sure this is an available option anymore but obviously ask the guys at the shop and they would know better
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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2017, 09:50:50 AM »
My last addition for now, covered most of it I think, at least more all in once place than I've ever seen.  This is one I've actually never really seen, but it's a rare Byron option called baseball milling, kinda like Lamont does on his putters. 
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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2017, 10:10:51 AM »
I lied, this is actually my last edition.  Similar to what I was calling hand-milled minnow, here is what looks like a slight variation with an aggressive hand mill.  Long story short on the hand-milling is Byron is a deity and if you show him a photo of milling you like he can probably get close just by hand-milling it.  So some of the hand milled pieces may not have committed names or patterns, just based off of certain looks.  Just my 2 cents.  Anyone else feel free to chime in and correct me.
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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2017, 08:01:04 PM »
Then the old school Twilight Milling so many people loved back from the 007 days.  I'm not sure this is an available option anymore but obviously ask the guys at the shop and they would know better

Such a great milling.  Sadly, not available anymore. 
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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2017, 08:01:29 PM »
I lied, this is actually my last edition.  Similar to what I was calling hand-milled minnow, here is what looks like a slight variation with an aggressive hand mill.  Long story short on the hand-milling is Byron is a deity and if you show him a photo of milling you like he can probably get close just by hand-milling it.  So some of the hand milled pieces may not have committed names or patterns, just based off of certain looks.  Just my 2 cents.  Anyone else feel free to chime in and correct me.

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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2017, 08:13:54 PM »
That aggressive hand milled looks awesome. Definitely something to keep in mind on my next putter.
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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2017, 08:41:26 PM »
I lied, this is actually my last edition.  Similar to what I was calling hand-milled minnow, here is what looks like a slight variation with an aggressive hand mill.  Long story short on the hand-milling is Byron is a deity and if you show him a photo of milling you like he can probably get close just by hand-milling it.  So some of the hand milled pieces may not have committed names or patterns, just based off of certain looks.  Just my 2 cents.  Anyone else feel free to chime in and correct me.

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Agreed!  So Eddie do you think you can help the people by adding all of the currently available milling options from the above?    And feel free to add anything this thread may have missed?  I really think this might be the most complete single thread covering Byron's milling options and I think it's something people often wonder about.  A recent update straight from you guys would be epic.  Thanks!
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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2017, 12:34:30 PM »
Since someone posted a photo of some of my putters from another site.  Not sure where they stole the photo I had edited years ago, but  I thought I'd include photos of all of the milling options I have.



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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2017, 12:40:26 PM »
great pictures, thank you for posting

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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #27 on: February 07, 2017, 03:16:49 PM »
titleistgolf_nirvana....I think I see a longneck 612 in JCLs pics.

BTW...JCL any chance you would run through the names of the milling in each pic.  Time consuming I know, so no worries if you can't.

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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2017, 06:47:43 PM »
Here are a few photos I have of my different face milling options...


Deep Milling on German Stainless 612 - Stock/Not Hand Milled - Brushed Stainless Finish


Tuna 400 on American Stainless DH89 - Hand Milled - High Polished Blue Oil Finish


Fly Milling on American Stainless DH89 - Hand Milled - High Polished (face only) Blue Oil Finish


Fly Milling on Carbon Steel Dakine "DaBlade" - Hand Milled - High Polished Blue Oil Finish


"DaBlade" from a different angle...



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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #29 on: February 07, 2017, 07:49:22 PM »
Your Fly Mill has always been on my Byron Rushmore.
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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #30 on: February 07, 2017, 11:03:25 PM »
Your Fly Mill has always been on my Byron Rushmore.

Thank you, sir... it's much appreciated.

That fly milled 89 has been the only putter in my bag since the day I picked it up.  I'm sure I'll order something else's in the future, but I don't know how I can go away from the fly milling on the face.  Not only does it give an awesome handcrafted look to the putter, but is super shallow and provides a slightly firmer feel (which I prefer).

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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #31 on: March 03, 2017, 03:20:38 PM »
Thanks this thread is very helpful.  Anyone comment on how deep the Tun 4 is that is standard on an 89?  I'm thinking of ordering a carbon steel one and don't want it to be too deep as deep milling to me kills the feel making a putter too soft.

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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #32 on: March 03, 2017, 07:33:38 PM »
The standard milling is a medium depth

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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #33 on: March 03, 2017, 07:42:09 PM »
Thanks this thread is very helpful.  Anyone comment on how deep the Tun 4 is that is standard on an 89?  I'm thinking of ordering a carbon steel one and don't want it to be too deep as deep milling to me kills the feel making a putter too soft.

I will say that Tuna 4 is a perfect medium depth. It's soft and responsive...perfect balance. It'd be even more buttery soft in carbon.

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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #34 on: March 03, 2017, 08:39:48 PM »
Really wish you could still get Twilight Zone milling. 
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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #35 on: March 03, 2017, 09:08:19 PM »
Really wish you could still get Twilight Zone milling.
Agreed. Best face mill of all time.

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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #36 on: March 03, 2017, 09:16:27 PM »
Deep, medium and fine milled faces.

Top- hand milled Fly Cut
Middle - stock, CNC Tuna 4
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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #37 on: April 18, 2018, 10:27:30 AM »
It's been a while since this thread was commented on but thought it deserves a bump. 

Very helpful in the ordering process to understand the options available and how/why they have evolved.  For some reason the milling options have never been very clear over on Mr Morgan's website.

Perhaps we should pin this thread (if it hasn't been suggested already?).
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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #38 on: April 18, 2018, 10:45:50 AM »
Deep, medium and fine milled faces.

Top- hand milled Fly Cut
Middle - stock, CNC Tuna 4
Bottom- stock CNC Deep Milling

what is the finish on that CNC Deep Milled putter?

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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #39 on: April 18, 2018, 03:23:16 PM »
Deep, medium and fine milled faces.

Top- hand milled Fly Cut
Middle - stock, CNC Tuna 4
Bottom- stock CNC Deep Milling

what is the finish on that CNC Deep Milled putter?
Glass Blast. Poor lighting making it look a bit darker.

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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #40 on: April 18, 2018, 05:13:55 PM »
Deep, medium and fine milled faces.

Top- hand milled Fly Cut
Middle - stock, CNC Tuna 4
Bottom- stock CNC Deep Milling

what is the finish on that CNC Deep Milled putter?
Glass Blast. Poor lighting making it look a bit darker.

wow...I have a glass blast and I don't think I could make it look that dark! :)

if that's glass blast then what is the one above it?

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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #41 on: April 18, 2018, 06:04:01 PM »
Deep, medium and fine milled faces.

Top- hand milled Fly Cut
Middle - stock, CNC Tuna 4
Bottom- stock CNC Deep Milling

what is the finish on that CNC Deep Milled putter?
Glass Blast. Poor lighting making it look a bit darker.

wow...I have a glass blast and I don't think I could make it look that dark! :)

if that's glass blast then what is the one above it?
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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #42 on: April 18, 2018, 09:35:24 PM »
Deep, medium and fine milled faces.

Top- hand milled Fly Cut
Middle - stock, CNC Tuna 4
Bottom- stock CNC Deep Milling

what is the finish on that CNC Deep Milled putter?
Glass Blast. Poor lighting making it look a bit darker.

wow...I have a glass blast and I don't think I could make it look that dark! :)

if that's glass blast then what is the one above it?
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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #43 on: April 21, 2018, 07:04:42 PM »
The Tuna #4 seems to be my favorite but my X-Proto has a very fine milling. I appear to putt great with either. I once tried a SS Piretti deep milled (very deep) and I couldn't get the ball to the hole. I learned a my lesson on deep milling. My muni greens are faster than last year but still on the slow side. Great pics in this thread, thanks.
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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #44 on: April 21, 2018, 09:47:10 PM »
Another example of the hand milled tuna on stainless.  This was from an order in 2013 and at the time Steve referred to it as 'fine hand milled tuna'.

My advice is if you spot a specific milling you want then just send the pic when you order and Byron will do it for you.

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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #45 on: April 21, 2018, 11:28:36 PM »

My advice is if you spot a specific milling you want then just send the pic when you order and Byron will do it for you.


That's good advice.  I've done that with neck shapes/placement too.  Byron shows a great willingness to use these aids to get customers the best product possible

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« Reply #46 on: April 24, 2018, 02:10:52 PM »
1 - Stock Deep Milling (no longer available)
2 - Stock Tuna Milling (B-17)
3 - Hand Milled Tuna 400 (Tuna #4)
4 - Hand Milled Fly Mill (my personal favorite)

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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #47 on: April 29, 2018, 10:56:34 PM »
Another example of the hand milled tuna on stainless.  This was from an order in 2013 and at the time Steve referred to it as 'fine hand milled tuna'.

My advice is if you spot a specific milling you want then just send the pic when you order and Byron will do it for you.

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Hi Gava,

Just wondering if you could give your thoughts regarding the feel of this face milling compare to your 006 (is that CNC milling).  Thanks!
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Re: Byron Face Milling Page
« Reply #48 on: April 30, 2018, 03:34:24 AM »
Hi Gava,

Just wondering if you could give your thoughts regarding the feel of this face milling compare to your 006 (is that CNC milling).  Thanks!

I have enjoyed reading & contributing to threads about types of milling versus feel.  The disclaimer here is that impressions are completely subjective and my preferences will always be different to others.  I tend to like deep milling as I prefer the more muted, butter soft contact.  Others find that soft feel doesn't give enough feedback.

My overall impressions are pretty similar to ones Dan made in this thread;  http://puttertalk.com/community/index.php?topic=44161.msg418883#msg418883

To your question, I sold both putters over three years ago, so am going from memory.  Both were stainless as I like my putters to remain in similar condition to how I receive them.  The 006 was definitely a little softer off the face.  I would describe the hand milled tuna as more 'in between' as it was still a little muted but not at much as the deep milling.  I haven't rolled a carbon putter in a while but have always felt the deep milling on stainless is comparable with lighter milling on carbon.  Mind you, a blindfold test would be very interesting.

Believe it or not, attached are both images of that 006 you mentioned (deep stock milling & matte blue oil) taken only a few weeks apart - the patina surprised me.
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