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David on Callaway Live ??
« on: August 01, 2016, 04:07:45 PM »
So, with David elevating the Odyssey brand, how long before we get to see him sit down on the set of Callaway Live with Harry Arnett ?  8)
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2016, 05:35:52 PM »
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2016, 07:48:43 PM »
So, with David elevating the Odyssey brand, how long before we get to see him sit down on the set of Callaway Live with Harry Arnett ?  8)

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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2016, 08:06:14 PM »
You mean Sean Toulon?

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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2016, 08:14:16 PM »
Yeah I know I posted on an old thread. I was wondering about the whole Toulon thing too.
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2016, 09:28:46 AM »
Saw the interview with Sean Toulon on Callaway Talk.  Good interview.
Towards the end of the interview they mentioned more exiting news was coming, and hinted towards another company coming on board.  I figured that was in reference to David.
Going to be interesting to see how this all plays out.

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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2016, 10:57:09 AM »
Saw the interview with Sean Toulon on Callaway Talk.  Good interview.
Towards the end of the interview they mentioned more exiting news was coming, and hinted towards another company coming on board.  I figured that was in reference to David.
Going to be interesting to see how this all plays out.

Is there a link to the interview?  That sounds like my understanding - David will be working for/with Sean Toulon.  I'm not an insider, but my guess is someone needs to either relocate or be more available to the brass at Callaway (Toulon), and David would stay in Tuscaloosa.
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2016, 11:31:46 AM »
Lets hope David doesn't sell out and then we start to see Toulons influence in his designs.
Touons putters were god awful looking. :o  More like Betti's which IMHO are ugly and garish (and one of the worst feeling putters on  the market).
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2016, 01:36:12 PM »
The more I hear about this deal, the more it sounds like the days of easily getting a putter from David are going away.

I looked at the Mills website and it is really sparse, to say the least. Maybe David just hasn't posted new putters that are available, least I hope so.

All in all, I just don't see this boding well for the Mills faithful.

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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2016, 01:54:15 PM »
I liked what Mark said about hiding his never gamed handmade Truett in a bunker.....
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2016, 02:10:55 PM »
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2016, 07:34:42 PM »
Saw the interview with Sean Toulon on Callaway Talk.  Good interview.
Towards the end of the interview they mentioned more exiting news was coming, and hinted towards another company coming on board.  I figured that was in reference to David.
Going to be interesting to see how this all plays out.

Is there a link to the interview?  That sounds like my understanding - David will be working for/with Sean Toulon.  I'm not an insider, but my guess is someone needs to either relocate or be more available to the brass at Callaway (Toulon), and David would stay in Tuscaloosa.

Sorry, I should have posted the link with my previous post.
I read it from a My Golf Spy article.  Here you go:

MyGolfSpy.com/callaway-golf-acquires-toulon-design/

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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2016, 07:40:05 PM »
Saw the interview with Sean Toulon on Callaway Talk.  Good interview.
Towards the end of the interview they mentioned more exiting news was coming, and hinted towards another company coming on board.  I figured that was in reference to David.
Going to be interesting to see how this all plays out.

Is there a link to the interview?  That sounds like my understanding - David will be working for/with Sean Toulon.  I'm not an insider, but my guess is someone needs to either relocate or be more available to the brass at Callaway (Toulon), and David would stay in Tuscaloosa.

Sorry, I should have posted the link with my previous post.
I read it from a My Golf Spy article.  Here you go:

MyGolfSpy.com/callaway-golf-acquires-toulon-design/

Click on the video in the article.  Right around the 3:20 mark is where they talk about the "other manufacturer" they are excited about working with.  ;)

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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2016, 11:54:24 PM »
Lets hope David doesn't sell out and then we start to see Toulons influence in his designs.
Touons putters were god awful looking. :o  More like Betti's which IMHO are ugly and garish (and one of the worst feeling putters on  the market).
Mills designs are timeless and very soft, even in SS.

I agree (for the most part I like some Betti's, but some are just waaaay to busy for my liking, like the Salmon face inserts etc.). I really never understood the greatness of Toulon putters. Personally their just the run of mill shapes that every company does, but I don't think anywhere as nice as others. Just basic cookie cutter models that have been milled to get top dollar for.

But that's JMHO.

I've never used one so I can't comment on the feel.
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2016, 04:14:53 PM »
Just watched the interview - Toulon seems like a pretty nice guy, and he did reference another coming on board...  Not really sure what to think at this point.  Toulon kept talking about technology etc., I'd be a little sad to see a white hot insert in a Mills putter.  Hope that's not happening but we'll find out, right?
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2016, 05:19:22 PM »
Just watched the interview - Toulon seems like a pretty nice guy, and he did reference another coming on board...  Not really sure what to think at this point.  Toulon kept talking about technology etc., I'd be a little sad to see a white hot insert in a Mills putter.  Hope that's not happening but we'll find out, right?

Or worse......Versa, TP Mills Softail Versa ouch. I hope they keep them classy.
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2016, 10:08:10 AM »
Just watched the interview - Toulon seems like a pretty nice guy, and he did reference another coming on board...  Not really sure what to think at this point.  Toulon kept talking about technology etc., I'd be a little sad to see a white hot insert in a Mills putter.  Hope that's not happening but we'll find out, right?

Or worse......Versa, TP Mills Softail Versa ouch. I hope they keep them classy.

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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2016, 10:02:51 PM »
I would like to see a #7 with a flowneck.  Topped of with the Mills Black Ox !!  No insert, all milled !! 
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2016, 09:03:44 AM »
I would like to see a #7 with a flowneck.  Topped of with the Mills Black Ox !!  No insert, all milled !! 

I've got a feeling if David's putting the Mills Black Ox on putters, it'll probably be limited batches or tour players - he's not setup to do large scale output, but definite possibility for the custom or tour putter.
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2016, 05:53:33 PM »
I just made a trade this week for a Hertiage with the black ox finish. I forgot how nice it was till I saw it in person again.
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2016, 10:21:16 PM »
guys, it will be good.  just be patient.  I really can't say anything more.
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2016, 10:45:27 PM »
guys, it will be good.  just be patient.  I really can't say anything more.

Cool, good to hear. Very interested to see what's to come.
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2016, 12:34:09 AM »
guys, it will be good.  just be patient.  I really can't say anything more.

Cool, good to hear. Very interested to see what's to come.

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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2016, 05:20:43 PM »
guys, it will be good.  just be patient.  I really can't say anything more.

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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2016, 06:07:41 PM »
Must be getting close to something.... 

I just received a Tradition Flat-T David was doing for me.  He knows I like to put my own grips on, so usually he sends me the putters with no grip...  This time, for kicks he put on a grip he was testing in the shop.  Very nice perforated leather stitchback - except embossed on the grip was "Odyssey"!!

BTW, the grip is actually very nice (I think it's a Gripmaster) and I think I'll leave it on for a while....  I could see this - maybe with some Mills co-branding - being what they go with down the road....

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« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2016, 06:37:11 PM »
Going out on a limb here, as it is simply from some observations in the past few years about Odyssey...

They have been making an attempt to get the world/public/players to accept an all milled putter. The Protype (for instance) with it's interchangeable weights in the sole was a foray into the milled waters, they have had several metal faced inserts lately as well. They may be making a play at bringing in a name (or two) in the same way that Titleist did in the mid 90's... someone to give some street cred to their milled putters.

Sean Toulon is no 'come lately' guy, he has a lot of time with TaylorMade under his belt remember. With Nike folding it's equipment tents, and TaylorMade on the market, this is really a good time to make a play for the resulting vacuum in the marketplace.

As for bad mouthing Toulon putters, I don't get it... they are pretty run of the mill (pardon the pun) designs, but they are really well made, and there is a pretty good chance that any pre-Callaway Toulon putter may actually gather some value. This could go the way of SC/pre-Titleist sticks. Or it could be the next coming of Grace/McGregor or Moore/Dunlop.

Bringing in two affirmed milling/handmade guys looks from the outside like Odyssey is leaning on that fork in the road that will perhaps lead them away from the insert...

Just my $.02 worth...
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2016, 07:34:19 PM »
Must be getting close to something.... 

I just received a Tradition Flat-T David was doing for me.  He knows I like to put my own grips on, so usually he sends me the putters with no grip...  This time, for kicks he put on a grip he was testing in the shop.  Very nice perforated leather stitchback - except embossed on the grip was "Odyssey"!!

BTW, the grip is actually very nice (I think it's a Gripmaster) and I think I'll leave it on for a while....  I could see this - maybe with some Mills co-branding - being what they go with down the road....

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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2016, 08:53:16 PM »
Must be getting close to something.... 

I just received a Tradition Flat-T David was doing for me.  He knows I like to put my own grips on, so usually he sends me the putters with no grip...  This time, for kicks he put on a grip he was testing in the shop.  Very nice perforated leather stitchback - except embossed on the grip was "Odyssey"!!

BTW, the grip is actually very nice (I think it's a Gripmaster) and I think I'll leave it on for a while....  I could see this - maybe with some Mills co-branding - being what they go with down the road....


How about some pics of both? I know what a Tradition is but not the Tradition Flat-T.

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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2016, 09:03:08 PM »
Going out on a limb here, as it is simply from some observations in the past few years about Odyssey...

They have been making an attempt to get the world/public/players to accept an all milled putter. The Protype (for instance) with it's interchangeable weights in the sole was a foray into the milled waters, they have had several metal faced inserts lately as well. They may be making a play at bringing in a name (or two) in the same way that Titleist did in the mid 90's... someone to give some street cred to their milled putters.

Sean Toulon is no 'come lately' guy, he has a lot of time with TaylorMade under his belt remember. With Nike folding it's equipment tents, and TaylorMade on the market, this is really a good time to make a play for the resulting vacuum in the marketplace.

As for bad mouthing Toulon putters, I don't get it... they are pretty run of the mill (pardon the pun) designs, but they are really well made, and there is a pretty good chance that any pre-Callaway Toulon putter may actually gather some value. This could go the way of SC/pre-Titleist sticks. Or it could be the next coming of Grace/McGregor or Moore/Dunlop.

Bringing in two affirmed milling/handmade guys looks from the outside like Odyssey is leaning on that fork in the road that will perhaps lead them away from the insert...

Just my $.02 worth...
Jimbo  8)


I really hope they do this, and do fully milled line with no insert.
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2016, 11:23:43 PM »

How about some pics of both? I know what a Tradition is but not the Tradition Flat-T.

Congrats on the new flatstick!

Flat-T as I understand it is just another name for the Tradition I.  It is differentiated from the Tradition II by it's flat bumpers (not rounded).  Hence the Flat T name.  Sort of like the Newport and Newport 2.

Re/ pictures, I posted on the putter over at this link: http://puttertalk.com/community/index.php?topic=46484.0

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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2017, 08:25:19 AM »
OK now, it's 2017 !!  Time to spill the beans !!  Or at least a couple beans.  Is P Reed's new flow neck a David Mills/ Odyssey venture ?  Coconut's #7 flow neck ?   ::)
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #31 on: January 07, 2017, 08:42:21 AM »
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« Reply #32 on: January 07, 2017, 08:15:54 PM »
OK now, it's 2017 !!  Time to spill the beans !!  Or at least a couple beans.  Is P Reed's new flow neck a David Mills/ Odyssey venture ?  Coconut's #7 flow neck ?   ::)
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #33 on: January 07, 2017, 11:36:18 PM »
Couldn't agree more with my buddy T-Ball.
Let's FINALLY hear what's going on!

When it comes to Callaway/Odyssey, all I'm hearing about is Toulon, Toulon, Toulon.
Toulon is the one who's done the interview on Callaway Live.
Toulon is the one who has his name on the new Odyssey putters that I've seen.

What is the story with David Mills being hired over there?
-I'm all ears.........

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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #34 on: January 08, 2017, 08:59:25 PM »
I'll add to the fire as well. I have no interest in an current Odyssey putter or Toulon/Odyssey (just my personal preference), but Mills/Odyssey......well I'd be intrigued😎
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #35 on: January 15, 2017, 10:11:39 AM »
chirp....chirp....chirp.....chirp.......

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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #36 on: January 16, 2017, 09:55:47 AM »
I wonder if we will ever find out what David's involvement with Callaway is?

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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #37 on: January 24, 2017, 06:29:50 PM »
I know David was planning on being at the PGA Merchandise show this week - is anyone here going?

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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #38 on: January 24, 2017, 07:36:44 PM »
I'm down here.  I did not see him at the demo day today.  I will be looking for him tomorrow at the show.  Will let you know if I can find him.  Kinda like where's waldo, but where's David!

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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #40 on: January 25, 2017, 06:55:45 PM »
Odyssey stamp on the toe...

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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #41 on: January 25, 2017, 07:14:05 PM »
Those are some nice looking putters.

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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #42 on: January 25, 2017, 07:19:53 PM »
Looks like the cats out of the bag.

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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #43 on: January 25, 2017, 07:45:42 PM »
Ive got several pictures on my Instagram.  I can't get them to load here from my phone.  Instagram is mikemillertime
I had a nice talk with David today.  He seems to think that his time with be more limited with the Odyssey deal in place for him to do customs from the shop.  On a side note, David's memory is amazing.  He recalled a conversation I had with him many years ago. I have changed careers since then and he seemed a little confused when I told him what I was doing work wise and he said I thought you were a me music teacher, or am I mistaken.

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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #44 on: January 25, 2017, 08:50:01 PM »
There is also a Mills bag next to the Odyssey "mall" here (at the Merchandse Show) at the putting green with his putters around it.  None had any Callaway or Odyssey markings - just his name and a few with the 'bama stamp.  Some had a really gorgeous light blue finish that I would love to have on one of my own !
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #45 on: January 26, 2017, 12:59:55 AM »
Can't lie every time WRX posts something on Odyssey I'm praying to see something Mills' (but hopefully without the versa stripes). Honestly I was somewhat....hoping the Toulon line would of been a Mills line of putters, but seeing the new line personally I'm kinda glad they are not Mills line of puters (if that makes sense with the new mallet, carbon fiber look style in the line). But I hope if they do release a Odyssey line of Mills it's done tastefully like all the Mills lines previously that came before it, JMHO, and no disrespect. And I hope if their released they keep the same tradition and style in the finished product (I know it's cheesy but I can't be the only single person to think this).
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #46 on: January 26, 2017, 01:39:42 AM »
If Toulon line is like the premium offering, then is Mills line like Scott's Garage? What is the intended audience?
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #47 on: January 26, 2017, 07:07:41 AM »
My take away from everyone I spoke to at the show was this, and please know this is my opinion and interpretation of several conversations with many different level folks.  Odyssey knows where their bread and butter putters are, the insert line with what I would say is a mid-price point in the industry and that's not going anywhere.  There's a reason they are the #1 putter out there on tour.  Toulon is a large scale milled putter line with some tech type stuff that will fit in the higher price point "grey area".  Odyssey by Mills, and this is just what I am calling it, I heard David and a big wig with Callaway asked what the official name of the collaboration is called and they both said theres not one, its just David mills making putters for Odyssey.  These putters will be pretty much an exclusive, all done by David, for tour and custom pieces.  There were some shapes and features of Mills putters that some of their playing staff had been wanting and apparently David has the legal rights to those and they brought him on to fill that custom milled putter and I had several Odyssey folks say when asked about price, they said it will be up there and probably hard to get.  This was such a new adventure for Odyssey that one of my contacts with them when I asked him yesterday morning what was up with it, he said i don't know but I've heard we will have something of his here, to which I said yeah, they have several in the booth, but you're gonna have to wipe my drool off them before anyone else looks at them. He asked where and he walked over with me and looked at each them and said wow.
So I don't think this is going to be a production line of Mills by Odyssey, but I could be wrong. It seemed that Mills was brought on to fill a very small specific niche that they needed and couldn't find anything or anyone to do other than David.  Even the stamping, I didn't see any of the mills that said Odyssey, just had the swirl logo and it was very small compared to what it usually is on Odyssey putters.  So I would venture a guess that this year on tour you will see a few players playing an Odyssey by Mills and this will create a demand for them on the club ho market if they can get a win or two.  And the price on any of them with the Odyssey swirl will be at a premium.  But that's just my opinion.
On a side note, clubs and club contracts aren't what they used to be.  After several conversations with folks down here, its almost like some have figured out that playing thier best is worth more than a high dollar club contract to play equipment that doesn't help or even hurt your game.  I was told PXG went after one of TM's stars and offered 4 times the $ to make the switch and he tried their stuff and said the irons felt good but the woods dont compare and I'm playing the best golf of my life, why would I change that. I will make up for the money On the course.  So he's still playing all TM today when he tee's it up with Tiger and Jason😱
I say to say, I had a few guys with different companies tell me the money contracts on tour really are in the apparel side. The margins for the companies are way better on a shirt and they can sell 10 shirts before they sell one driver and the consumer is going to purchase more shirts in a year than clubs. So everything down here seemed to be that tour guys are looking for the $ from what they are wearing and playing the clubs and ball that is going to help their game. Theres a reason tigers TM deal is for 13 clubs and his TM blades that are created for him will look exactly like his Nike/Titleist/Mizuno blades hes always played and TM will put their stamp on it and release 1000 limited edition,sets to the market.
Hopefully, this will be good for David to get more putters in play on tour, especially with the resources of the Odyssey/Callaway brand to promote it if someone can get a win with one.

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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #48 on: January 26, 2017, 08:04:29 AM »
That is great, detailed information and kind of the same place I have come to understand this collaboration to be going.  It will be great to see some Mills putters out on tour!
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #49 on: January 26, 2017, 09:33:27 AM »
Thanks for the update!  Any pics of the putters?   :D



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