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David on Callaway Live ??
« on: August 01, 2016, 04:07:45 PM »
So, with David elevating the Odyssey brand, how long before we get to see him sit down on the set of Callaway Live with Harry Arnett ?  8)
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2016, 05:35:52 PM »
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2016, 07:48:43 PM »
So, with David elevating the Odyssey brand, how long before we get to see him sit down on the set of Callaway Live with Harry Arnett ?  8)

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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2016, 08:06:14 PM »
You mean Sean Toulon?

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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2016, 08:14:16 PM »
Yeah I know I posted on an old thread. I was wondering about the whole Toulon thing too.
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2016, 09:28:46 AM »
Saw the interview with Sean Toulon on Callaway Talk.  Good interview.
Towards the end of the interview they mentioned more exiting news was coming, and hinted towards another company coming on board.  I figured that was in reference to David.
Going to be interesting to see how this all plays out.

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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2016, 10:57:09 AM »
Saw the interview with Sean Toulon on Callaway Talk.  Good interview.
Towards the end of the interview they mentioned more exiting news was coming, and hinted towards another company coming on board.  I figured that was in reference to David.
Going to be interesting to see how this all plays out.

Is there a link to the interview?  That sounds like my understanding - David will be working for/with Sean Toulon.  I'm not an insider, but my guess is someone needs to either relocate or be more available to the brass at Callaway (Toulon), and David would stay in Tuscaloosa.
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2016, 11:31:46 AM »
Lets hope David doesn't sell out and then we start to see Toulons influence in his designs.
Touons putters were god awful looking. :o  More like Betti's which IMHO are ugly and garish (and one of the worst feeling putters on  the market).
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2016, 01:36:12 PM »
The more I hear about this deal, the more it sounds like the days of easily getting a putter from David are going away.

I looked at the Mills website and it is really sparse, to say the least. Maybe David just hasn't posted new putters that are available, least I hope so.

All in all, I just don't see this boding well for the Mills faithful.

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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2016, 01:54:15 PM »
I liked what Mark said about hiding his never gamed handmade Truett in a bunker.....
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2016, 02:10:55 PM »
+1

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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2016, 07:34:42 PM »
Saw the interview with Sean Toulon on Callaway Talk.  Good interview.
Towards the end of the interview they mentioned more exiting news was coming, and hinted towards another company coming on board.  I figured that was in reference to David.
Going to be interesting to see how this all plays out.

Is there a link to the interview?  That sounds like my understanding - David will be working for/with Sean Toulon.  I'm not an insider, but my guess is someone needs to either relocate or be more available to the brass at Callaway (Toulon), and David would stay in Tuscaloosa.

Sorry, I should have posted the link with my previous post.
I read it from a My Golf Spy article.  Here you go:

MyGolfSpy.com/callaway-golf-acquires-toulon-design/

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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2016, 07:40:05 PM »
Saw the interview with Sean Toulon on Callaway Talk.  Good interview.
Towards the end of the interview they mentioned more exiting news was coming, and hinted towards another company coming on board.  I figured that was in reference to David.
Going to be interesting to see how this all plays out.

Is there a link to the interview?  That sounds like my understanding - David will be working for/with Sean Toulon.  I'm not an insider, but my guess is someone needs to either relocate or be more available to the brass at Callaway (Toulon), and David would stay in Tuscaloosa.

Sorry, I should have posted the link with my previous post.
I read it from a My Golf Spy article.  Here you go:

MyGolfSpy.com/callaway-golf-acquires-toulon-design/

Click on the video in the article.  Right around the 3:20 mark is where they talk about the "other manufacturer" they are excited about working with.  ;)

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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2016, 11:54:24 PM »
Lets hope David doesn't sell out and then we start to see Toulons influence in his designs.
Touons putters were god awful looking. :o  More like Betti's which IMHO are ugly and garish (and one of the worst feeling putters on  the market).
Mills designs are timeless and very soft, even in SS.

I agree (for the most part I like some Betti's, but some are just waaaay to busy for my liking, like the Salmon face inserts etc.). I really never understood the greatness of Toulon putters. Personally their just the run of mill shapes that every company does, but I don't think anywhere as nice as others. Just basic cookie cutter models that have been milled to get top dollar for.

But that's JMHO.

I've never used one so I can't comment on the feel.
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2016, 04:14:53 PM »
Just watched the interview - Toulon seems like a pretty nice guy, and he did reference another coming on board...  Not really sure what to think at this point.  Toulon kept talking about technology etc., I'd be a little sad to see a white hot insert in a Mills putter.  Hope that's not happening but we'll find out, right?
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2016, 05:19:22 PM »
Just watched the interview - Toulon seems like a pretty nice guy, and he did reference another coming on board...  Not really sure what to think at this point.  Toulon kept talking about technology etc., I'd be a little sad to see a white hot insert in a Mills putter.  Hope that's not happening but we'll find out, right?

Or worse......Versa, TP Mills Softail Versa ouch. I hope they keep them classy.
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2016, 10:08:10 AM »
Just watched the interview - Toulon seems like a pretty nice guy, and he did reference another coming on board...  Not really sure what to think at this point.  Toulon kept talking about technology etc., I'd be a little sad to see a white hot insert in a Mills putter.  Hope that's not happening but we'll find out, right?

Or worse......Versa, TP Mills Softail Versa ouch. I hope they keep them classy.

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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2016, 10:02:51 PM »
I would like to see a #7 with a flowneck.  Topped of with the Mills Black Ox !!  No insert, all milled !! 
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2016, 09:03:44 AM »
I would like to see a #7 with a flowneck.  Topped of with the Mills Black Ox !!  No insert, all milled !! 

I've got a feeling if David's putting the Mills Black Ox on putters, it'll probably be limited batches or tour players - he's not setup to do large scale output, but definite possibility for the custom or tour putter.
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2016, 05:53:33 PM »
I just made a trade this week for a Hertiage with the black ox finish. I forgot how nice it was till I saw it in person again.
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2016, 10:21:16 PM »
guys, it will be good.  just be patient.  I really can't say anything more.
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2016, 10:45:27 PM »
guys, it will be good.  just be patient.  I really can't say anything more.

Cool, good to hear. Very interested to see what's to come.
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2016, 12:34:09 AM »
guys, it will be good.  just be patient.  I really can't say anything more.

Cool, good to hear. Very interested to see what's to come.

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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2016, 05:20:43 PM »
guys, it will be good.  just be patient.  I really can't say anything more.

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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2016, 06:07:41 PM »
Must be getting close to something.... 

I just received a Tradition Flat-T David was doing for me.  He knows I like to put my own grips on, so usually he sends me the putters with no grip...  This time, for kicks he put on a grip he was testing in the shop.  Very nice perforated leather stitchback - except embossed on the grip was "Odyssey"!!

BTW, the grip is actually very nice (I think it's a Gripmaster) and I think I'll leave it on for a while....  I could see this - maybe with some Mills co-branding - being what they go with down the road....

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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2016, 06:37:11 PM »
Going out on a limb here, as it is simply from some observations in the past few years about Odyssey...

They have been making an attempt to get the world/public/players to accept an all milled putter. The Protype (for instance) with it's interchangeable weights in the sole was a foray into the milled waters, they have had several metal faced inserts lately as well. They may be making a play at bringing in a name (or two) in the same way that Titleist did in the mid 90's... someone to give some street cred to their milled putters.

Sean Toulon is no 'come lately' guy, he has a lot of time with TaylorMade under his belt remember. With Nike folding it's equipment tents, and TaylorMade on the market, this is really a good time to make a play for the resulting vacuum in the marketplace.

As for bad mouthing Toulon putters, I don't get it... they are pretty run of the mill (pardon the pun) designs, but they are really well made, and there is a pretty good chance that any pre-Callaway Toulon putter may actually gather some value. This could go the way of SC/pre-Titleist sticks. Or it could be the next coming of Grace/McGregor or Moore/Dunlop.

Bringing in two affirmed milling/handmade guys looks from the outside like Odyssey is leaning on that fork in the road that will perhaps lead them away from the insert...

Just my $.02 worth...
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2016, 07:34:19 PM »
Must be getting close to something.... 

I just received a Tradition Flat-T David was doing for me.  He knows I like to put my own grips on, so usually he sends me the putters with no grip...  This time, for kicks he put on a grip he was testing in the shop.  Very nice perforated leather stitchback - except embossed on the grip was "Odyssey"!!

BTW, the grip is actually very nice (I think it's a Gripmaster) and I think I'll leave it on for a while....  I could see this - maybe with some Mills co-branding - being what they go with down the road....

Thus is"illuminating"...RC
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2016, 08:53:16 PM »
Must be getting close to something.... 

I just received a Tradition Flat-T David was doing for me.  He knows I like to put my own grips on, so usually he sends me the putters with no grip...  This time, for kicks he put on a grip he was testing in the shop.  Very nice perforated leather stitchback - except embossed on the grip was "Odyssey"!!

BTW, the grip is actually very nice (I think it's a Gripmaster) and I think I'll leave it on for a while....  I could see this - maybe with some Mills co-branding - being what they go with down the road....


How about some pics of both? I know what a Tradition is but not the Tradition Flat-T.

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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2016, 09:03:08 PM »
Going out on a limb here, as it is simply from some observations in the past few years about Odyssey...

They have been making an attempt to get the world/public/players to accept an all milled putter. The Protype (for instance) with it's interchangeable weights in the sole was a foray into the milled waters, they have had several metal faced inserts lately as well. They may be making a play at bringing in a name (or two) in the same way that Titleist did in the mid 90's... someone to give some street cred to their milled putters.

Sean Toulon is no 'come lately' guy, he has a lot of time with TaylorMade under his belt remember. With Nike folding it's equipment tents, and TaylorMade on the market, this is really a good time to make a play for the resulting vacuum in the marketplace.

As for bad mouthing Toulon putters, I don't get it... they are pretty run of the mill (pardon the pun) designs, but they are really well made, and there is a pretty good chance that any pre-Callaway Toulon putter may actually gather some value. This could go the way of SC/pre-Titleist sticks. Or it could be the next coming of Grace/McGregor or Moore/Dunlop.

Bringing in two affirmed milling/handmade guys looks from the outside like Odyssey is leaning on that fork in the road that will perhaps lead them away from the insert...

Just my $.02 worth...
Jimbo  8)


I really hope they do this, and do fully milled line with no insert.
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2016, 11:23:43 PM »

How about some pics of both? I know what a Tradition is but not the Tradition Flat-T.

Congrats on the new flatstick!

Flat-T as I understand it is just another name for the Tradition I.  It is differentiated from the Tradition II by it's flat bumpers (not rounded).  Hence the Flat T name.  Sort of like the Newport and Newport 2.

Re/ pictures, I posted on the putter over at this link: http://puttertalk.com/community/index.php?topic=46484.0

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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2017, 08:25:19 AM »
OK now, it's 2017 !!  Time to spill the beans !!  Or at least a couple beans.  Is P Reed's new flow neck a David Mills/ Odyssey venture ?  Coconut's #7 flow neck ?   ::)
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #31 on: January 07, 2017, 08:42:21 AM »
Yeah what he said...

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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #32 on: January 07, 2017, 08:15:54 PM »
OK now, it's 2017 !!  Time to spill the beans !!  Or at least a couple beans.  Is P Reed's new flow neck a David Mills/ Odyssey venture ?  Coconut's #7 flow neck ?   ::)
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #33 on: January 07, 2017, 11:36:18 PM »
Couldn't agree more with my buddy T-Ball.
Let's FINALLY hear what's going on!

When it comes to Callaway/Odyssey, all I'm hearing about is Toulon, Toulon, Toulon.
Toulon is the one who's done the interview on Callaway Live.
Toulon is the one who has his name on the new Odyssey putters that I've seen.

What is the story with David Mills being hired over there?
-I'm all ears.........

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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #34 on: January 08, 2017, 08:59:25 PM »
I'll add to the fire as well. I have no interest in an current Odyssey putter or Toulon/Odyssey (just my personal preference), but Mills/Odyssey......well I'd be intrigued😎
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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #35 on: January 15, 2017, 10:11:39 AM »
chirp....chirp....chirp.....chirp.......

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Re: David on Callaway Live ??
« Reply #36 on: January 16, 2017, 09:55:47 AM »
I wonder if we will ever find out what David's involvement with Callaway is?

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