Author Topic: Collaboration between Byron Golf Design and Bruce Rearick (bargolf) (Read 53928 times)

waddman · « **Reply #100 on:** January 21, 2011, 02:12:14 AM »

haha Dan! Maybe you have stumped them

bargolf · « **Reply #101 on:** January 21, 2011, 12:34:51 PM »

How can anyone using a Byron Design need putting help?

Thaddy · « **Reply #102 on:** January 24, 2011, 03:15:41 PM »

Just booked my trip to the Mixer in June! I'm very much looking forward to showing off my sub-par putting skills in front of everyone else

nvgolfdude · « **Reply #103 on:** January 24, 2011, 03:28:01 PM »

Quote from: dans4fun on November 18, 2010, 12:23:12 AM

Who wins the putt off to play with Bruce, the better putter or the one's that need it the most?

Dan

Hmmm... Will it be the 3 best putters, or the 3 worst? I know, maybe a drinking contest, or perhaps schmoozing the guy making out the 4-somes is the way to go...

lightningbolt444 · « **Reply #104 on:** January 26, 2011, 02:04:31 PM »

Quote from: Thaddy on January 24, 2011, 03:15:41 PM

Just booked my trip to the Mixer in June! I'm very much looking forward to showing off my sub-par putting skills in front of everyone else

Looks like I have some competition for the most putts

Thaddy · « **Reply #105 on:** January 26, 2011, 02:31:44 PM »

Quote from: lightningbolt444 on January 26, 2011, 02:04:31 PM

Quote from: Thaddy on January 24, 2011, 03:15:41 PM
Just booked my trip to the Mixer in June! I'm very much looking forward to showing off my sub-par putting skills in front of everyone else

Looks like I have some competition for the most putts

We should play together. Bruce will have no choice but to play with us after watching us three-jack from 5 feet on the practice green

lightningbolt444 · « **Reply #106 on:** January 26, 2011, 02:36:02 PM »

Quote from: Thaddy on January 26, 2011, 02:31:44 PM

Quote from: lightningbolt444 on January 26, 2011, 02:04:31 PM
Quote from: Thaddy on January 24, 2011, 03:15:41 PM
Just booked my trip to the Mixer in June! I'm very much looking forward to showing off my sub-par putting skills in front of everyone else

Looks like I have some competition for the most putts

We should play together. Bruce will have no choice but to play with us after watching us three-jack from 5 feet on the practice green

Ha Sounds like a plan to me

nvgolfdude · « **Reply #107 on:** January 27, 2011, 02:36:22 AM »

Schmoozing the guy making out the foursomes is really the way to go...

lightningbolt444 · « **Reply #108 on:** January 27, 2011, 03:02:05 AM »

Quote from: nvgolfdude on January 27, 2011, 02:36:22 AM

Schmoozing the guy making out the foursomes is really the way to go...

Drinks on me Dave !!!

bargolf · « **Reply #109 on:** February 01, 2011, 11:32:23 AM »

Finished the testing this week!

Time to go to work.

Thaddy · « **Reply #110 on:** February 04, 2011, 01:31:14 PM »

Bruce, I'm interested in hearing about the progress you've made with your Bruce Blade. Also, will you be bringing them to the Byron Mixer in June?

bargolf · « **Reply #111 on:** February 04, 2011, 01:35:22 PM »

Yes that is my plan.

I mentioned to Dave that I would share all the basics of our fitting and instruction to the group. I will have first drafts of the guidelines to all participants.

Maybe during cocktail hour. It will be easier to sell it merits then.

finalist · « **Reply #112 on:** February 04, 2011, 01:38:50 PM »

Quote from: bargolf on February 04, 2011, 01:35:22 PM

Maybe during cocktail hour. It will be easier to sell it merits then.

By accident cocktail hour started at 10 AM last year. I didn't know it was so early because the sun was so bright in HB.

bargolf · « **Reply #113 on:** February 04, 2011, 02:19:00 PM »

Sounds good. Man I wish it was June.

waddman · « **Reply #114 on:** February 04, 2011, 04:06:57 PM »

Quote from: nvgolfdude on January 27, 2011, 02:36:22 AM

Schmoozing the guy making out the foursomes is really the way to go...

Perhaps a practice round at Pelican on Tuesday?

nvgolfdude · « **Reply #115 on:** February 09, 2011, 12:12:44 PM »

Quote from: finalist on February 04, 2011, 01:38:50 PM

Quote from: bargolf on February 04, 2011, 01:35:22 PM
Maybe during cocktail hour. It will be easier to sell it merits then.

By accident cocktail hour started at 10 AM last year. I didn't know it was so early because the sun was so bright in HB.

By accident? I was there. It was a plan, and it was a good plan!

finalist · « **Reply #116 on:** February 09, 2011, 12:37:39 PM »

Quote from: nvgolfdude on February 09, 2011, 12:12:44 PM

Quote from: finalist on February 04, 2011, 01:38:50 PM
Quote from: bargolf on February 04, 2011, 01:35:22 PM
Maybe during cocktail hour. It will be easier to sell it merits then.

By accident cocktail hour started at 10 AM last year. I didn't know it was so early because the sun was so bright in HB.

By accident? I was there. It was a plan, and it was a good plan!

It was a great plan!

I cracked open a beer thinking/feeling it was afternoon. Didn't realize it was 10AM... once I found out I knew it was going to be a good day!

bargolf · « **Reply #117 on:** February 09, 2011, 01:23:44 PM »

I have some rules about drinking.

Bloody Mary's during daylight hours
Scotch when it is dark.
Beer as needed.

Really has worked well for me over the years.

nvgolfdude · « **Reply #118 on:** February 09, 2011, 01:30:50 PM »

Quote from: bargolf on February 09, 2011, 01:23:44 PM

I have some rules about drinking.

Bloody Mary's during daylight hours
Scotch when it is dark.
Beer as needed.

Really has worked well for me over the years.

Words to live by...

The bar at Duke's is calling us...

yoshiod9 · « **Reply #119 on:** February 09, 2011, 02:16:18 PM »

Quote from: finalist on February 09, 2011, 12:37:39 PM

Quote from: nvgolfdude on February 09, 2011, 12:12:44 PM
Quote from: finalist on February 04, 2011, 01:38:50 PM
Quote from: bargolf on February 04, 2011, 01:35:22 PM
Maybe during cocktail hour. It will be easier to sell it merits then.

By accident cocktail hour started at 10 AM last year. I didn't know it was so early because the sun was so bright in HB.

By accident? I was there. It was a plan, and it was a good plan!

It was a great plan!

I cracked open a beer thinking/feeling it was afternoon. Didn't realize it was 10AM... once I found out I knew it was going to be a good day!

Yeah, it was a pretty darn good plan! Haha. As soon as I saw you grab one, I figured, "Hell, why not?" It was a perfect start to the day.

Thaddy · « **Reply #120 on:** February 10, 2011, 09:01:39 AM »

Quote from: bargolf on February 09, 2011, 01:23:44 PM

I have some rules about drinking.

Bloody Mary's during daylight hours
Scotch when it is dark.
Beer as needed.

Really has worked well for me over the years.

Only if I can top off my Bloody Mary with some Guinness!

Clemsonfan · « **Reply #121 on:** February 14, 2011, 04:55:33 PM »

Quote from: waddman on February 04, 2011, 04:06:57 PM

Quote from: nvgolfdude on January 27, 2011, 02:36:22 AM
Schmoozing the guy making out the foursomes is really the way to go...

Perhaps a practice round at Pelican on Tuesday?

I had the good fortune of playing both Pelican Hill courses last year on the same day, and had a great day.

I would love to join you, if possible.

bargolf · « **Reply #122 on:** June 07, 2011, 07:54:55 AM »

UPDATE:

After working with and showing these putters to enough different people over the course of the late winter and spring, I thought I would pass along some thoughts.

First discovery is that I need two more. I will be seeing Byron at the mixer and I hope to show him then the two I missed. No big secret, after getting my Bombora long neck I need two fitting blades in this configuration. the center shafted putters are neutral. Work ok for almost all our stroke profiles. Not the best answer for upright swing paths, or to help reduce rotation.

Second discovery is the eye opener. In the Golf Digest Article the designer for Taylormade said you wouldn't or shouldn't design your own putter. I am convinced using the blades that the exact opposite is true. If we can help you find the right/shaft face relationship, it is much better to finish the rest of the putter your self.

MUCH BETTER!!! I cannot say that more strongly. Once the player understands the rotational requirements of the putter (neck to face) the improvement in putting when players have an input in the design is measureable. Color matters, feel matters, VISUAL MATTERS, it all makes a difference.

MORE TO COME.

bargolf · « **Reply #123 on:** June 07, 2011, 08:04:43 AM »

PS
Don't wait 30 years waiting for someone to build the one you like and need.

bargolf · « **Reply #124 on:** July 01, 2011, 09:19:45 AM »

I just got done reading a load in one of the golf publications from the latest "guru". In the interest of fairness let me say that I am not a big fan of the author. So contrary to what you might read.....

THE PUTTER YOU USE MATTERS!!!!!!!!!

Anyone who has had a Puttlab measurement done using different putters knows this to be true or if they send me their reports, I can show you where the differences are.

Byron and anyone else willing to make a putter to a players specifications, performs an incredibly valuable service to anyone who plays this game with a desire to improve.

Not only is the effort worth it. The end result is something to be proud of.
It was hard to really get into how Byron's fitting putters worked at the Mixer. There wasn't the time and certainly not my place. But they do provide a way to discover the best specifications for you.

drewspin · « **Reply #125 on:** July 01, 2011, 02:28:54 PM »

Quote from: bargolf on July 01, 2011, 09:19:45 AM

I just got done reading a load in one of the golf publications from the latest "guru". In the interest of fairness let me say that I am not a big fan of the author. So contrary to what you might read.....

THE PUTTER YOU USE MATTERS!!!!!!!!!

Anyone who has had a Puttlab measurement done using different putters knows this to be true or if they send me their reports, I can show you where the differences are.

Byron and anyone else willing to make a putter to a players specifications, performs an incredibly valuable service to anyone who plays this game with a desire to improve.

Not only is the effort worth it. The end result is something to be proud of.
It was hard to really get into how Byron's fitting putters worked at the Mixer. There wasn't the time and certainly not my place. But they do provide a way to discover the best specifications for you.

Still working on a plan to get me to out to the Academy... but in the mean time, are there any Puttlabs near DC?

bargolf · « **Reply #126 on:** July 01, 2011, 03:17:13 PM »

Drew,

I am sure there are. I'll get back to you.

Bruce

bargolf · « **Reply #127 on:** February 25, 2012, 12:38:02 PM »

I just saw a mechanical fitting version of the profile putters done by Yes! They sitll dont tell you how to decide what is best for you. I think you would rather know than guess. Byron and the guys know! We have been doing it for a couple of years. Man I wish I would win the lottery.

jman32 · « **Reply #128 on:** March 25, 2013, 08:15:34 PM »

This fitting method is similar to the old slazenger fitting method. We use to hand bend the amount of toe hang and offset into a putter based on stroke type and aiming pattern. Offset has a big impact on alignment. It was a very good system with many head choices and materials. Most of the people I fit are still using the putters more than 10 years later. It is nice to see a similar system out there.

bargolf · « **Reply #129 on:** March 26, 2013, 07:35:56 PM »

I dont want to sound petty. This has no similarity to the Slazenger method other than shaft/ hosel options. We especially

DO NOT FIT OFFSET TO AIM OR ALIGNMENT.

We measure for shaft axis as well. We also fit for cog.

Slazenger was a great system and ahead of its time. I am very familiar with it. However if you had a Slazenger putter and went through our system you would not end up with the same putter. Time will tell which is better if either is.

chuck4golf · « **Reply #130 on:** September 10, 2015, 12:41:55 AM »

This is a pretty dormant thread. But I just met these two guys and am very impressed by their skills and the power of this collaboration.

I ran into Bruce trying to figure out how to systematically evaluate putters. I subscribed to his service and started learning a lot. I knew about Byron, but didn't know they collaborated. When I saw this I just thought this was a GREAT synergy of two very skilled people.

I am very interested in hearing how people who used this approach have developed as putters. I fully expect to see my putting improve. My long game is a 6 index. Putting more like a 15.

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Author Topic: Collaboration between Byron Golf Design and Bruce Rearick (bargolf) (Read 53928 times)